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[grandekinoks]

we ordered 116 pieces F35. they will be delivery on 2014-2019.
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[tasoscorsair]

We have siged for 75 F-22 Raptors, arrival date 2013
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[grandekinoks]

[tasoscorsair]

someone else is in a dream, I am just jokeing..... grandenikos
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[nomad]

I found this in mr Kopp 's page but I don t know if this is true:


The sustained turning performance of the F-35A Lightning II was recently disclosed as 4.95 G at Mach 0.8 and 15,000 ft. A 1969 F-4E Phantom II could sustain 5.5 Gs at 0.8 Mach with 40 percent internal fuel at 20,000 feet. The F-35 is also much slower than the 1960s F-4E or F-105D. So the F-35A’s aerodynamic performance is ‘retrograde’ when compared with 1960s legacy fighters. The consequence of such inferior JSF performance is that its DAS might detect an incoming missile, but the aircraft lacks the turn-rate to out-fly it.

[tasoscorsair]

any link?
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[nomad]

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-300309-1.html
They say that this is undisclosed infos from Lock-mart

[anders110]

[el]

F-35 Chief Fired, Money Withheld From Lockheed
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates fired the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program manager Feb. 1, saying someone must be held accountable for the program's delays and cost overruns.

News of the dismissal of U.S. Marine Corps Maj. Gen. David R. Heinz came at the beginning of a media briefing about the fiscal 2011 defense budget, released a short time earlier. The proposed budget, which must be approved by Congress, includes $10.7 billion for 43 F-35s.


"To now move forward in this program in a realistic way, one cannot absorb the additional costs that we have in this program and the delays without people being held accountable," Gates told reporters at the briefing, televised live on The Pentagon Channel. "If I have set one tone here at the Department of Defense - when things go wrong, people will be held accountable."

Gates did not name a replacement for Heinz but did say he will upgrade the position from a two-star billet to a three-star billet. A Pentagon spokesman did not know if the program's deputy manager, U.S. Air Force Maj. Gen. C.D. Moore, will take over in an acting role.

In addition to firing Hines, Gates announced the Defense Department is withholding $614 million in performance fees from the F-35's lead maker, Lockheed Martin. The company will not oppose the action, he said.

Late last year, an internal Pentagon report showed the new stealth fighter was so far behind schedule that DoD would have to spend as much as $16.6 billion to get its largest weapons program back on track. At that time, Pentagon acquisitions chief Ashton Carter told Lockheed Martin officials that the company would have to help pay the cost overruns.

The Annual Report of the Pentagon's Director of Operation Test and Evaluation, released in January, showed the F-35 program flew only 16 of the 168 test flights scheduled for 2009. The test flights could not be flown due to delays in aircraft deliveries, which set the program back another year.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4480268&c=AIR&s=TOP
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[Mix]

They are realy stuck with it, just look at having a great start(complete plans of Yak-141) and money from dozens of countries
I can only imagine dissapointment when degraded versions reach participating airforces `over the puddle`
There is lot in stake here
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History of Kosovo-facts

[Elfot]

I wonder why the partner Nations haven't started to complain yet...
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[tasoscorsair]

[mp210]

Same case from New York times
http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/108749/gates-tries-to-get-f35-program-back-on-course

[el]

Delays to postpone F-35 Israel deal
Major delays in the production of the fifth-generation stealth F-35 Joint Strike Fighter will likely lead to the postponement of Israel’s procurement plans, which initially set the signing of a contract by the end of March.

One top IDF officer told The Jerusalem Post on Sunday that the Defense Ministry was unlikely to sign a letter of agreement (LOA) with the Pentagon before the end of 2010.

“Everything now appears to be pushed off by at least a year,” the senior officer said.

On Sunday night, IDF Chief of General Staff Lt.-Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi flew to Washington for talks with top Pentagon officials. Ashkenazi plans to speak with his American counterpart, Adm. Michael Mullen, and other Pentagon officials about the delays in the production of the JSF and how it will affect the IDF.

Last week, US Air Force Secretary Michael Donley said that the service’s plan to use the F-35 will probably be delayed by two years and cost significantly more than the $130 million initially expected.

Donley said that the F-35 would not be ready for the US Air Force until 2015, the date that Israel had initially wanted to begin receiving the stealth jet. The jet had been scheduled to become initially operational in 2013 before the Pentagon uncovered serious problems with the contract. Last month, Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced that at least one senior manager would be fired and $614 million in performance bonuses would be withheld from lead contractor Lockheed Martin Corporation.

“If the Americans are only getting the plane in 2015, then it is difficult to imagine that we will receive it the same time,” the officer said, adding that the Air Force was currently in talks with the Pentagon about locking down a delivery date.

News of the delays in the F-35 program came as Israel and the US moved closer to finalizing details of the deal, long held up by disagreements over the integration of Israeli indigenous technology into the aircraft. The IAF plans to phase out old-model F-16s after it receives the F-35.


Israel had planned to order a first squadron of 25 jets within the coming months and to procure another 50 by the end of the decade. Due to the delays, some IAF officers are calling for a review of the procurement plans and to consider the possible purchase of additional F-15Is made by Boeing Company. Israel already has a squadron of F-15Is that are capable of carrying massive amounts of weaponry and flying long distances, including to Iran.
http://www.jpost.com/Home/Article.aspx?id=170428
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[el]

Fighter jet contract goes down -Denmark
The Joint Strike Fighter saga has apparently come to an end after several years of negotiations with the US government


After a week where it was announced there would be yet another price increase for potential buyers, the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) is no longer being considered by the Danish Defence Command as a replacement for its aging F-16s war planes, reports public broadcaster DR.


Since negotiations for purchasing the planes began in 1999 between Denmark and US Department of Defense – which has been heavily involved in the development of the Lockheed Martin jet – the cost of a single plane has risen from around 275 million kroner to 540 million.

The JSF project has been plagued with problems since its inception. The original release date for the plane was set for 2012, although now US officials say the jet will not be ready until 2016. In addition, the project took a major hit last month when the man heading it was fired by US Defence Secretary, Robert Gates,due to the jet’s continued development delays.

Despite having invested considerably in the JSF project – with several companies securing eventual work contracts for the planes should they have been purchased – the Danish government is now leaning toward Boeing’s F-18 Superhornet as its preferred choice.

In April last year, Boeing promised to ensure orders worth up to 20 billion kroner for Danish companies if the military purchased the company’s Superhornet model.

A decision on which jet will replace the F-16s is expected to be made by parliament some time in 2012.
http://www.cphpost.dk/news/national/88-national/48516-fighter-jet-contract-goes-down.html
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